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Buddy333
I just finishe wrapping this section of my blank and the threads look kind of for lack of a better word "stripey". Seems to be a lot of fuzz on this as well. I am hesitant to use CP on it as I would really rather it look more uniform in color and darken up but I ran the red metallic thread under the wrap for both trim rings and if I dont use CP my guess is the metallic red will show through badly. Anyone have thoughts?
Buddy333
was going to add another pic but looks like I used up all my space.
phg
If you upload your pictures to photobucket, you can just past the img url.

You are making the correct assumption, though. If you don't use CP, whatever is under your wraps will show through. You get rid of the fuzzies by singing the wraps. An alcohol burner is the best choice for this, because an alcohol flame doesn't leave any carbon residue. I have used a candle flame and a Bic lighter before, though, and and didn't have any problem. Just pass the wrap through the flame, and the fuzzies will singe. For the speed, pass your finger through the flame as slowly as you can without discomfort, that will be the right speed. I turn the rod over and do it a second time to get the other side.
Buddy333
Thanks for the reply.
I did flame the wrap and that took care of the fuzz.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t44/phi...ey/DSC_4124.jpg

Lets see if this link works
Gnossos
You're right--that's stripey. I'm only an expert at making mistakes and not the most expert one here at anything else, but I'd bet there's something on your thread and suggest you pull at least the top layer off the spool and redo. I'd also check to make sure that whatever you're running the thread through to provide tension is not fraying the thread or getting some bad pooky on it.
Gnossos
skyfireblaze
Could it be inconsistent thread tension? I know that in my own wraps I can see the difference between areas of different thread tension.
Buddy333
I was thinking all of those things as after the first few wraps I noticed it. I pulled a couple layer off the spool and also changed from using a phone book for tension to running the thread between 2 plastic divider sheets inserted into the phone book. Then I build a thread stand and tensioner like some of the ones I have seen in photos here. I used nylon washers and wing nuts to secure the bobbin on the stand and then run the thread down through two very smooth eyelets. After changing all these variables I see no difference in any of the wraps. I thought maye the thread was being twisted so I did one wrap where I pulled enough thread off and let it hang static so that I know there was no extra twist in it. The blank was wiped down with Denautured alchohol and my hands were clean. I am now certain it just must be the thread. I am not sure i want to use CP as I am dont really want to have the streaky look.
phg
That's a pretty good picture. Nice camera work.

What thread were you using, brand, type and size?

My first thought is that you aren't packing the wraps well enough. I stop every 5 or 6 wraps and pack them together. A bit more tension might also be called for. Looking closely at the profile, it seems a bit uneven, which would suggest uneven tension.

I hate to say it, but if it were me, I'd pull it off and try again.
Buddy333
Even though felt like I had packed them all really well, I usually stop every 3 revolutions and pack, I pulled one off and rewrapped and did it tighter too. I will include a pic below

I thought I was using all Gudebrod Size A nylon thread but now that I look this is labeled Angles Workshop Rod winding thread A Dark Grey. The bobbing looks just like the Gudebrod one and I never even checked as I picked it out along with a couple others when I was up there last time. The others are all Gudebrod, dont know if this was just mixed in the display or what. Anyway I guess it is what it is.

As you can tell from the picture it turned out the same. On the first pictures I posted they did look a little uneven but I think that is because it was the second from the top and on te top of that wrap the tag end that is tucked under is makingit look a little out of shape. The rest of the wraps, in my opinion all look very uniform and are packed well. Take a look at this picture and let me know what you think. I really dont want to unwrap the whole rod.

One option I thought of is if I get a grey magic marker of some kind and use that to make the threads more uniform in color and then hit it with CP before epoxy? Anyone have thoughts on this or if it will produce a bad result? I might try it on another blank on the butt section and see how it works.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t44/phi...ey/DSC_4131.jpg
Gnossos
Thread is cheap and life is short. If you're not putting something on the thread, somebody else did. I'd pitch it. Maybe AW would send you a new spool, if you don't have any more of the color you want.
Gnossos
phg
I agree, that's a nice looking wrap, but the color is uneven. It's got to be the thread. I'd redo the rod, but that's your call.
Buddy333
Thanks for all the replys guys. I wrapped an inch on another scrap blank I had and it did the same thing. I am going to put CP on the wrap on the scrap piece it and see how it looks after a couple of coats.
As much as I dont want to, I think I will re-do the rod. I know it will bug me everytime I look at it. Thanks again guys for the help.
John T.
I wouldn't waste the CP. Toss the thread and start over. Gnossos is right with his comment.
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