Jump to content


Photo

Leonard Tournament 8ft 3pc 3wt


19 replies to this topic

#1 OSD

OSD
  • Super Moderators
  • 6,003 posts

Posted 16 September 2007 - 08:43 AM

I just completed this nice 3/2 blank and will not get a chance to build it up.
Another rod builder has spoken for it, and so off it goes to become someone elseís fly rod.
I like the feel of this blank for what thatís worth.
Dose anyone else have one built to comment on the action and casting of this taper?


IPB Image

#2 nympher1

nympher1
  • Members
  • 49 posts

Posted 16 September 2007 - 02:31 PM

Bob,
I intend to build out my blank over the winter in time for next spring (God willing), promise to let you know what I think, if I get it built sooner, I'll let you know..
Ron

#3 OSD

OSD
  • Super Moderators
  • 6,003 posts

Posted 16 September 2007 - 04:12 PM

Thanks Ron

Bob

#4 djpeet

djpeet
  • Members
  • 193 posts

Posted 16 September 2007 - 07:58 PM

Bob,

I built one for a buddy of mine and he really likes the action. He's a much more fluent caster than I--he likes a "tippier" rod and this one fit his casting style perfectly. I watched him effortlessly send out 40-50 ft casts. This rod flexes with a really nice kick about 10-12" down from the tip and has a lot of muscle into the 2nd section. I cast it a few times and wanted to keep it...very, very smooth. I'd say it's well worth building one for yourself. It's been his go to rod all summer for some of the streams he's been fishing around the country. The largest he landed was a 25" rainbow--so it has some punch to it.

Don

#5 nympher1

nympher1
  • Members
  • 49 posts

Posted 16 September 2007 - 08:12 PM

dj,
well, thanks for the encouragement... maybe I won't wait for winter to build out mine...
ron

#6 canerodscom

canerodscom
  • Members
  • 1,323 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Winnsboro, LA, USA

Posted 17 September 2007 - 11:01 AM

I have built 12-15 of these rods, and they have become one of my more popular tapers. If you saw the picture essay over at Clark's forum on my rod and the California native trout, the rod pictured was built to a slightly modified version of this taper. If any of you cast my bamboo ferruled rod at the Colorado Rodmakers gathering, it too was built to a modified version of this taper. There are several photo essays of rods made to this taper here: http://www.canerods.com/photos.html

I would describe the taper as quite fast. Run it through the Common Cents regimen and the AA comes out about 80*. It's also one of the smoothest tapers you'll ever cast.

Guess you can tell I like it quite well, huh? smile.gif

Harry
Harry Boyd
maker@canerods.com
http://www.canerods.com
Heat Treating Fixtures and Ovens
(318)435-5476 home phone
(318)282-1825 Shop/cell phone

#7 fishcane

fishcane
  • Members
  • 4 posts

Posted 28 October 2007 - 09:01 PM

Chris Bogart has an original Leonard Tournament 8 ft 3pc 3 weight and I got to cast it a few years ago. It is a wonderful casting rod and is probably the best long 3 wt rod I ever casted. I've yet to make one myself but it is on my list and I'll get to it one of these years.

If you got the taper off Rodmakers or RodDNA, it was from the taper Chris Bogart measured from his original and made available to the rod making community.

Bob

#8 OSD

OSD
  • Super Moderators
  • 6,003 posts

Posted 24 November 2007 - 11:24 AM

This is the rod built up



IPB Image

#9 bank feeder

bank feeder
  • Members
  • 16 posts

Posted 27 November 2008 - 01:22 AM

Hi guys, I'm new to the forum. I'm in the processes of gathering tools for rod making. This is a taper I'm interested in making for myself. I looked at this taper on the bamboorodmaking.com site and it looks like there are some steep taper increases toward the butt end (swelled-butt?). I was wondering if this taper can be made using standard forms or are swelled-butt forms needed? Thanks for the replies.

Bank Feeder

#10 canerodscom

canerodscom
  • Members
  • 1,323 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Winnsboro, LA, USA

Posted 27 November 2008 - 06:33 AM

This taper works fine with standard forms, but I'm not sure I would recommend it as a first rod. The tips are quite small and a little experience would be nice before jumping into something like this. Give yourself a rod or two before you start on three piecer's with skinny tips.

Just my $.02

Harry
Harry Boyd
maker@canerods.com
http://www.canerods.com
Heat Treating Fixtures and Ovens
(318)435-5476 home phone
(318)282-1825 Shop/cell phone

#11 bank feeder

bank feeder
  • Members
  • 16 posts

Posted 27 November 2008 - 03:17 PM

Harry, I agree 100%. My first rod will probably be a Dickerson 8013 taper, probably the 1949 taper from "the lovely reed". Thanks for the response and happy thanksgiving.

Bank Feeder

#12 FlyDoctor

FlyDoctor
  • Members
  • 211 posts

Posted 27 November 2008 - 03:23 PM

The 3pc taper in RodDNA is given without the swelled butt and says "see comment" but there is no comment included, any ideas? The 2pc version shows the swell and the other butt stations are a little larger. So what do you guys do for a taper swell on the 3pc version? I'm assuming that the RodDNA taper is corrected for varnish? Thanks--LJP

#13 Carlin

Carlin

  • Members
  • 4,765 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 27 November 2008 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE
The 3pc taper in RodDNA is given without the swelled butt and says "see comment" but there is no comment included, any ideas?

That usually means the taper came from the David Ray or Hexrod library. Here are the comments from the 8' 3pc 3wt listed on Hexrod that shows a quick swell to .391".
QUOTE
Date: Mon Jun 29 14:38:29 1998
From: "Chris Bogart"
Subject: Leonard Tournament 8' 3 Piece 3wt.

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To All

I also had a large number of requests for this taper on the rod I own.
Here it is.

Chris

8' 3 piece 3wt Leonard Tournament Rod
Planing Form Setting Report--From Dimensions
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Basic Rod Design Parameters:
Rod Length: 8 ft 0 in (= 96 inches)
Action Length: 7 ft 4 in (= 88 inches)

Line Weight: 3
Pieces: 3
Line Fished: 30 ft
Tip Factor: 1.048
Ferrule Type: Standard
Ferrule #1: Size 10/64; Wt 0.162 oz.; Rod Dim 9.57/64 @ 32 in
Ferrule #2: Size 15/64; Wt 0.358 oz.; Rod Dim 15.05/64 @ 64 in

Planing Form Adjustment 0.0010
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Station Rod Dimension Station Setting
0 0.052 0.0270
5 0.062 0.0320
10 0.076 0.0390
15 0.096 0.0490
20 0.118 0.0600
25 0.132 0.0670
30 0.144 0.0730
35 0.158 0.0800
40 0.174 0.0880
45 0.184 0.0930
50 0.198 0.1000
55 0.208 0.1050
60 0.224 0.1130
65 0.238 0.1200
70 0.246 0.1240
75 0.264 0.1330
80 0.284 0.1430
85 0.308 0.1550
90 0.391 0.1965

http://www.uwm.edu/c...2.pl/rm9806.602

Chris

FNRSBanner1.jpg


#14 bank feeder

bank feeder
  • Members
  • 16 posts

Posted 28 November 2008 - 02:48 AM

Chris, that's the taper I was looking at. It seems to have a large swell from 85" to 90". Is that swell possible to make using standard forms or does one need swelled-butt forms. Thanks

Bank feeder

#15 OSD

OSD
  • Super Moderators
  • 6,003 posts

Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:38 AM

I didn't use the swell on this rod blank just continued at .284 from 80 to 96 at the base



Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users