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#1 River Rat

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 11:08 PM

After making 4 5 wt Perfectionists, I want to branch out a bit and am thinking about making a 3 wt rod using another taper. My original thought was a 9' rod to get some extra distance and I've already got two 7'-6" 3 wt graphite rods (from before I caught the Bamboo Bug). I hollow-built the Perfectionists and they balanced nicely (which incidentally taught me that you can balance a bamboo rod and that it makes a lot of difference in casting it) but I'm not so sure that I can do that with a 9' rod without adding significant extra weight at the reel seat. So, I'm wondering if making a 9' rod is worth the effort. This rod would most likely be used lake fishing from a boat for panfish and bass. I'm thinking about using either the Cattanach Sir D taper as the design basis or the Montague 9' 3 wt taper. However, I am by no means focused on a particular taper at this point and am certainly open to advice on that subject.

You guys have always been wonderful sources of advice so I thought I'd come here to pick your brains.

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#2 canerodscom

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 10:14 AM

I do not think you will be happy with a 9' #3. Either the butt will be so stiff that you wind up with a 6 foot rod with a 3 foot unbending handle, or so wimpy that you can drink a cup of coffee waiting for the loop to unroll while casting. For that matter, I've never cast a nine foot bamboo rod that did not feel excessively heavy, and very few eight and a half foot bamboo rods feel good.

Sorry to rain on your parade.

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 11:30 AM

Typically bamboo rods work best in 8 foot and shorter lengths. If you want a 7 ft 6 in 3 wt rod I wouldn't hesitate recommending a Caenis by Thomas and Thomas. There are also some very nice 3 wt's in shorter lengths. My personal favorite is a 6 ft 9 in I made in 3 sections. I had a rod tube for a 4 piece plastic rod so I looked at what would fit the tube in a 3 piece bamboo. I took a Cattanach taper for a 6 ft 6 in and a 7 ft 3 piece rod and adapted it for 6 ft 9 in. Basically I have a butt from the 6ft 6 in and the tip from the 7 ft and the mid is a prorated version of both. It produced a sweet casting 3 wt that I use on the headwater streams in my part of the world. I have made 4 like it and another rodbuilding buddy copied it and makes it one of his regular rods he makes for sale.

If you want the taper let me know.

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:43 PM

QUOTE (canerodscom @ Dec 7 2013, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I do not think you will be happy with a 9' #3. Either the butt will be so stiff that you wind up with a 6 foot rod with a 3 foot unbending handle, or so wimpy that you can drink a cup of coffee waiting for the loop to unroll while casting. For that matter, I've never cast a nine foot bamboo rod that did not feel excessively heavy, and very few eight and a half foot bamboo rods feel good.

Sorry to rain on your parade.

Harry


Thanks Harry,

There's no rain on my parade but rather the sunshine of folks' experiences.

Thanks,
Cliff


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#5 River Rat

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE (aracane @ Dec 7 2013, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Typically bamboo rods work best in 8 foot and shorter lengths. If you want a 7 ft 6 in 3 wt rod I wouldn't hesitate recommending a Caenis by Thomas and Thomas. There are also some very nice 3 wt's in shorter lengths. My personal favorite is a 6 ft 9 in I made in 3 sections. I had a rod tube for a 4 piece plastic rod so I looked at what would fit the tube in a 3 piece bamboo. I took a Cattanach taper for a 6 ft 6 in and a 7 ft 3 piece rod and adapted it for 6 ft 9 in. Basically I have a butt from the 6ft 6 in and the tip from the 7 ft and the mid is a prorated version of both. It produced a sweet casting 3 wt that I use on the headwater streams in my part of the world. I have made 4 like it and another rodbuilding buddy copied it and makes it one of his regular rods he makes for sale.

If you want the taper let me know.

Cheers!

Arne


Arne,

The taper sounds very sweet and I'd love to have it. I think Harry drove the last nail in the 9' rod coffin.

Thanks,
Cliff

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