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#1 gmorin71

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 02:03 PM

So I am having some difficulty learning the nuances of my new benchtop lathe. I want to turn my own reel seat inserts and I have all the attachments to bore the hole as well as a mandrel so I believe that I am all set with that. As far as turning grips, what do I need to secure the mandrel or threaded rod in the lathe? a 3 jaw chuck? Its just hard in the learning phase to determine which chucks do which jobs and such. This forum is usually a huge help. I know I could go to a wood turners site but this forum has been great for this process so far. Thanks.



#2 Goduster

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 07:42 AM

What are you using in the headstock to hold the wood while you are boring the insert?


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 05:51 PM

Hi mate. I use a small 3 jaw chuck with a threaded rod thats covered with tape (for sanding) nut and washer at each end.

I pushed the threaded rod thru the headstock till no more than 1\2 inch was protuded and then I centre drilled the tail stock end with a little engineers stub drill to make sure it was correctly centetred.

Thats it SIMPLE!!

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 09:12 PM

Threaded rod for a mandrel is one of the most dangerous ways to turn something on a lathe at speed. They are soft and flexible


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 01:33 PM

Threaded rod for a mandrel is one of the most dangerous ways to turn something on a lathe at speed. They are soft and flexible

I have used "all-thread" threaded rod to turn, for many years, my inserts.  How do I make that safe?  By having one end in the headstock chuck and the other end in a rotating tailstock chuck (here: https://littlemachin...=2504&category= and https://www.micromar...2-Inch-Capacity ).  That gives support on both ends so rod flexibility is not a problem.

 

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 04:58 PM

Hi Tim. Good to chat again. How are you mate??

Yep Tim is correct. Turning between centres is safe as pencil sharpening.

Remember theres not much pressure when sanding cork.

Be safe. Use the shortest thickest rod you can use. You can always ream out the cork if needed.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 04:59 PM

Best not start WW3 again Tim.!!! Ha ha


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Posted 25 November 2017 - 07:50 AM

ok, so here's what I did/bought...

 

When doing my research I found a post on this very forum and followed that. It's found here...

 

http://www.rodbuildi...our +reel +seat

 

Do I need that 3 jaw chuck to mount my cork grip for sanding? 

 

so I Believe I am ok with the stuff to hold and drill the blank. I also bought this mandrel...

 

https://www.pennstat...e/PKMSMAN2.html

 

but it doesnt look like that. it doesnt have the piece on the right side of it. Do I need to buy whatever is included in the picture as well or is there another way to mount that end into my tailstock? 



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Posted 25 November 2017 - 07:57 AM

looks like that is a mandrel saver? 



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Posted 25 November 2017 - 07:59 AM

also, if I bought the chuck to hold the blank for drilling, do I have to buy a whole other chuck for the cork grip or can I just find some face plate ?



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Posted 25 November 2017 - 11:21 AM

If you buy the dedicated blank drilling chuck, yes you should also get at least a 3 jaw chuck to hold the mandrel.  


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Posted 25 November 2017 - 02:38 PM

I'm going to go off in another direction because I think the mandrel saver is totally a waste of time and money.

 

I understand where my namesake was coming from when he mentioned the dangers of the "allthread" rod.  I assumed that he was in reference to the 1/4" and I wouldn't use that personally because it does bend.

 

I think it was Kevin who once posted about thick wall 1/4" "stainless steel tubing" and that stuff is a joy to work with and it doesn't bend when turning or sanding grips.

 

The only items I use for either of these is listed:

 

TBC "Turn Between Center" bushings for my reel seats (I've made quite a few since 2007 or so out of delrin, oilites and stainless steel)

MT2 Live Center and MT2 Dead Center

MT2 1/2" Drill Chuck

A "1/4" and "3/8" MT2 collet chuck with draw bar (similar to this but from another source)

 

https://www.amazon.c...k Lathe Spindle

 

https://www.amazon.c...k Lathe Spindle

 

I also have some "drill rod" I've used for grips.

 

A three jaw chuck will work for turning reel seats.  Just mount the wood between the live and dead center, turn a tenon on one end and then clamp that round end in the three jaw chuck and drill the blank.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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#13 gmorin71

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Posted 25 November 2017 - 06:42 PM

For the reel seat, if I have that mandrel in, what goes in the tailstock? Also, what keeps the wood from just spinning on the mandrel?

For the grip, if I have the 3 jaw chuck, what goes in the tailstock?

This is unbelievably confusing and I’ve done a lot of research before this. Most of the videos out there assume that a newbie knows this already. I will say though, I turned a piece of poplar to practice and it was fun

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Posted 25 November 2017 - 07:17 PM

For the reel seat, if I have that mandrel in, what goes in the tailstock? Also, what keeps the wood from just spinning on the mandrel? 

 

The Live Center.   41SbRYeeA5L.jpg

 

https://www.amazon.c...mt2 live center

 

 

You'll need this Dead Center   3554285DC.jpg.   

 

https://www.amazon.c...mt2 live center

 

 

For the grip, if I have the 3 jaw chuck, what goes in the tailstock?

 

The Live Center

This is unbelievably confusing and I’ve done a lot of research before this. Most of the videos out there assume that a newbie knows this already. I will say though, I turned a piece of poplar to practice and it was fun

 

A picture of what you have would help.  I can look for picture of my setup if it would help clarify things for you.


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#15 gmorin71

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 01:58 PM

this is what I have 

 

https://imgur.com/a/oZ1DN






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