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Interpreting the forms dims

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#1 badboy6070bce

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Posted 04 March 2016 - 06:45 AM

Hi craftsmen, I believe this Q has been asked somewhere before but I cannot find it.
Be good if it was pinned yes??

How does one interpret where the overlap is (to ferrule) on the tip and but form dims to get the same measurements on both tip and butt and still get the correct length of rod?
I hope you get my meaning.

Thanks for the explanation.
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Chris


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#2 BGreer

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Posted 04 March 2016 - 07:58 AM

Chris,

 

Generally:

You want to install the ferrules at the halfway point (for a two-piece rod) on your blank's taper. This halfway point should determine what size ferrules to use.

 

Then you will want to cut the rod sections to length. You want the tip section and the butt section to be equal length' but at the same time, you want the assembled rod to be its proper length.

 

Mr. Harry Boyd has explained this very well in an online tutorial. He explained it well enough for even me to understand.

I will admit, my first time cutting the length made we a little uneasy. I read over it a couple times and then made measurements.

After I got my measurements, I put tape where I thought my cuts should be. Then I measured again to make sure that everything was correct.

 

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Here's a link to Harry's discussion about cutting the blank. It's about a third of the way down the page.

http://www.canerods....Rodmaking7.html

 

I hope this is what you are looking for.

 

Brian



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Posted 07 March 2016 - 08:38 AM

Thanks for the kind words Brian, although you can drop that "Mr." if you don't mind.  :)

 

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#4 badboy6070bce

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 04:01 PM

Thanks Brian. Huh just Harry eh!!

Methinks he should be "Sir H" just like Sir D. Very modest guy.
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Posted 07 March 2016 - 04:43 PM

RIGHT, I will try to explain again.. I understand, say on a 7ft rod to ferrule at the half way Mark.

It's the form setting that I need to clarify.

Let's say for example at half way TIP mark the form measures .250 so the BUTT mark has to be .250

As I see it any form measurements past the ferrule mark/measurements is/are irrelevant and there just to taper up or down to the ferrule measurements. Yes??

If so then we can put our own measurements here?

Correct me if I am wrong please.

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 08:46 PM

Those "extra" measurements beyond the ferrule cut can be useful.  If, after gluing up the blank, you find that your dimensions are larger or smaller than what you wished, a common solution is "sliding" the blank towards the tip to increase the measurements and towards the butt to decrease them.  Continuing the general taper of your strips past the ferrule cut can help, if  sliding is necessary, to hit the desired dimensions at the cut.

 

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Posted 08 March 2016 - 04:19 PM

Hi Tim and thanks for the expertise. (Again!! Ha)

I never thought of that explanation. I see now!
I had been just making my blanks 2 inches longer at each end using the finished station dimension so I could adjust it slightly..., Now I will make it 4-6 inch longer at each end. HINDSIGHT is wonderful, but rare.

So you can teach an old dog new tricks!!


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